FINISHING A STORY – Terrible Writing Advice

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    • avatar Mason Bell 0

      I know there are probably better places to ask this, but what is a good website to send in stories and get people to proofread/review it? I've always wanted to write my own stories, but I have no idea where to post it.

      • avatar Wolf Walker 0

        Bloody hell. I go through all your other videos and smirk at how I avoid the other pitfalls and now I watch this and realise I need to take ALL of your advice here. Why do I find writing the hardest part of writing!?

        • avatar bil1ster 0

          your book is actually sick. I bought it on kindle. I will say your terrible writing advice on character deaths in war novels predicts something in your book. However, your book was actually fire. Also, do you read comments. I found a couple typos. Oh… and did you put a wilhem scream into one of your scenes? You describe a scream and it made me think of the movie cliche wilhem scream. Anyhow. I loved the book and am eagerly awaiting your next one. keep up the good work. (also the flying saucer joke had me in stitches)

          • avatar VijayThor 1

            I'm so glad I'm subscribed to you. I self published my first book, and looking back on it, it is utter trash! With you're help, I'm gonna reboot this thing (but with a lot more love triangles and edgy teens)

            • avatar Perry Atwood 0

              Dang, I gotta stop world building. Thank you for the advice, love your channel. Can't wait to see where it goes from here!

              • avatar A guy With a picture of pepe the frog 1

                My ending is basically this:
                My character leaves the building were the final battle was (a garbage dump) , and just keeps going while he hears the police coming on their way
                He sits down close to an abandoned truck and starts to think
                He stares at the moon as he keeps thinking about his past choices, when he asks himself "Did I did right? A my really human?"
                Then, by a few minutes later, gets up and looks down to a puddle of water, sees his reflection, it's his human form
                And just as he sees him again, he starts to play the russian roulette with his image and himself
                And that's it, will his human form survive or will his actual form survive?
                that is it.

                • avatar Optimistic Otaku 1

                  Holy shit, you just described me…

                  • avatar VIVOOfficial 1

                    And I quote, from Robert Mckee, "Know what your character likes for breakfast. Know their favorite clothes. Know everything you possibly can about the world."

                    This is called the saturation point by many. It is an elusive and dangerous creature that resides in the depths of your mind, just barely far enough away so that you cannot see it. You can acquire this strange being through meticulous planning of your story. Or, meticulous writing of your story. See, there's two ways, usually, that people write. The first is your way; make a rough outline of your story and get to it. Then there's the other way; Take a month or so of complete dedication to your world. Live it. Breathe the same air as the characters. Develop the story in your head for a week or so, then take an assload of easy, simple notes about all the amazing things you will do. Put them in order. Work on them. Know every necessary detail, and every unnecessary detail. Once you do this, you will reach the saturation point. Now begin writing. With all of this knowledge that you own, you can promptly begin work on everything from character development to proper world building. You immediately have a range of possibilities to begin and continue your story. You have every detail you need to go down two entirely separate path's of your story and still have it be from the same exact starting point. It's a truly amazing feeling to be able to do this. Writer's block is still an issue, but it takes a lot less to make up for your reluctance to write those parts in the second draft.

                    I'm in between. I've been working on a story for about six years now. It's been a hell of a time. A lot of it was me writing whatever I wanted to write. Just screwing around with characters who I didn't even have basic traits for. Of course, I was ten when I started. But in the past two years, I began doing something else. I already knew everything I wanted to do with the story. I knew where I wanted to take it down to basic scene beats at that point. But something was missing. It was my characters. It was the world they live in. It was the political state of not only their world but the other worlds that are involved. (it's science fiction) It was a complete lack of knowledge of the fine details that I would need to be completely free yet also streamlined with how I approached it. So I thought. I sat there and started my story fifteen or so times before coming upon the one I wanted. In that time, I developed each of my characters in my head to the point where I can tell how they walk, how they throw their arms up in frustration. I also took it to the point where I knew every square inch that they would cover, up until the last act. I'm saving that for how I may change my first and second and third acts.

                    Make your characters have context you never even tell your readers. That way you can have a main plot point be not only bouncing off of multiple different things the characters do, but also off of multiple events that have happened preceding the story. It almost every time makes it feel so much more natural. For example, I am a kid. I am being raised by a group of maidens and a few men, along with a thousand other kids, to live in a self sustaining ecosystem inside of the last remaining habitable place on earth. My friend thought he saw, as we call it, "the outside". He disappeared three weeks ago. Now I am stuck here, with a girl who hates me and another girl who used to bully me. I found out about an elevator, and heard sounds from the other side after sneaking into it. After escaping and showing my colony that we have been lied to, I managed to get this place discovered by the country that still remains. There was no apocalypse. It was a bunch of religious assholes who saw some solutions that someone, or something (i've been told both) had made for a potential world extinction event. They used us as guinea pigs. Does that sound cool? Here's the backstory I created for everything.

                    I have an AI that created a list of solutions to a growing climate change issue on earth many years from now. A cult of zealots takes this and uses one of those solutions as a means of justifying a facility they create. They kidnap kids at birth and indoctrinate them with the belief that they are in the last remaining human anything on earth after the apocalypse left it uninhabitable. Now start the story from the kids perspective. Feed only partial information. Only let the reader know that a cult did this because they saw something that predicted solutions to a problem that may not even exist. And voila, you have a saturated story with info the reader will never know or need to know, but is important to the plot in some way. Feels saturated.

                    That's because I have full control over my world and I know precisely what I am talking about.

                    Sorry for the wall. I just wanted to give my two scents on how stories are written. TL;DR If you want to have utter freedom, minimize writer's block, minimize cliche's, maximize plot, and develop everything the precise way you want as easy and as satisfying as possible, know as much as you can about everything that has to do with anything in your story, so you can have it play off itself.

                    • avatar Madeline 0

                      A game of walking dead

                      • avatar Anna Hopper 1

                        I'm totally guilty of too much worldbuilding. :P My current story has nothing but character sketches, some of which most likely won't even be mentioned. I know how the universe works and what the villain did to set off the protagonists, but that's it.

                        • avatar Felipe Vasconcelos 0

                          I like Tolkien, and he was more of a conlanger than a worldbuilder, and much more of a worldbuilder than a writer. It took him ages to write books, but they were still amazing and revolutionary. Why is spending too much time in worldbuilding a bad thing?

                          • avatar banggai cardinal 1

                            Holy cow. I've been planning a story for years, and in my head it seems pretty good, but every time I start writing I give up because I'm worried that it's bad.
                            It's extremely hard for me to "just stop" doing that, but making this story a reality has been my dream for a long time.

                            • avatar Destroyer of Corporate 0

                              3:31 "call me Ishmael"

                              • avatar Steampunk_Timelord 0

                                You call it theft, I call it inspiration!

                                • avatar AKI 0

                                  But world building is fun D:

                                  • avatar mariheart 0

                                    i hate how the worldbuilding shit applies to me so fucking much

                                    • avatar S Y 1

                                      Dude, may I call you dude? I dont know your name so I'm gonna go with dude. Thank you for this. I've actually been kind of in this rut. I have the story in my mind, but I keep adding notes and world-building (and history building) to try to prevent future plot holes and issues. I've done very little in the way of WRITING.
                                      This is a nice little kick in the pants, thanks again dude!! I love your channel.